Schumer is in a Neocon frontgroup.

I believe very strongly that his crusade against the netroots candidates is motivated by support for Iraq war.  I believe they are trying to replace candidates that are strongly against the Iraq war with candidates that are for it, but won't commit vocally in favor of it.  Their latest entry is Acuri in NY.  Acuri won't commit to a position on withdrawal, other than vague statements  that he believes the troops should stay until Iraq is stable.   Duckworth is another stand for nothin.   Harold Ford, Schumer's mentoree, openly says he loves Bush and doesn't want a pullout until the job is done.   Please realize, Schumer is a member of a neocon front group named Foundation for Defense of Democracy. He is not all that stealth about his own beliefs, and we should stop being willfully blind to his motivation. Here is some information on Schumer's ties to this group from right web.

Chuck Schumer

He serves on "The Board of Advisors" to "The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies"

According to right web.

The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD) has become one of the most prominent and influential in the array of traditionally right-wing and neoconservative think tanks. [b]President Bush's speech on the "Global War on Terrorism" on March 13, 2006 at an event sponsored by FDD elevated the think tank's national and international profile. Bush's choice of FDD as a forum was widely regarded as a sign that the administration has not backed away from the neoconservative foreign policy despite the problems of the Iraq War[/b] and U.S. Middle East policy in general.

He serves on this board with:

Republican Party insiders dominate FDD's board, and its president, Clifford May, is the former director of communications for the Republican National Committee (1997-2001) and was the editor of Rising Tide, the party's official magazine. FDD's three board members are Steve Forbes, Jack Kemp, and Jeane Kirkpatrick. As a way to achieve widespread acceptance of its positions on counterterrorism and on Middle East affairs, FDD has two bipartisan advisory groups.

Its four "Distinguished Advisers" are Newt Gingrich, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Louis J. Freeh (former FBI director), and James Woolsey. FDD also has a Board of Advisers, whose members are: Gary Bauer, Donna Brazile, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY), Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL), Frank Gaffney, Amb. Marc Ginsberg, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ), Charles Jacobs, William Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Hon. Richard D. Lamm, Richard Perle, Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA), Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA), and Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY). 3

Schumer should not be believed when he claims he is motivated by concern for red state candidates. The red districts are opposed to the war too.  He isn't a triangulator.  He is an ideologue that genuinely supports the Iraq war.  It was an awful mistake to put him and his buddy Rahm in charge of Congressional Election Committees.  

Finally, we need to stop whining about Schumer and Emanuel's interference in local elections and nationalize the progressive side.  We need to encourage the netroots to promote the progressive antiwar candidates and contribute money to their campaigns.  This interference isn't going to stop just because we don't like it.  If anything our complaining will encourage the behavior to continue.

It is absolutely critical that we keep a prowar consensus from getting elected, and this is most safely done in the primaries.  Also, someone who won't commit on the war should be asked to  to commit, or we should work against them, in favor of a candidate that does.  IF they oppose the war they should say it, and if they favor it they should say it.  If you are at any "question and answer" session with one of the stand for nothins, ask them where they stand, if they won't commit against the war work for people that will.



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by Dameocrat on Sat Apr 29, 2006 at 10:26:14 PM EST

Hmmmm (3.00 / 1)

I am not comforatble with this organization from the get-go, as when you look at the list of leaders on it, it seems to involve characters unfriendly to progressivism as a whole...

But there are a number of dems on it - Donna Brazile, Jim Marshall, Eliot Engel...

The presence of Newt, Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, and Gary Bauer gives me great pause and concern.

Why is Lieberman on this? I don't know much about Marshall and Engel, but what are their roles? Are they trying to temper the extremism of these idiots or do they really stretch out to the Neo-Con philosophy on Middle East takeover?


by daninvirginia on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 07:42:25 AM EST

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both have supported and continue to support war.


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by Dameocrat on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 01:02:19 PM EST
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Re: Schumer is in a Neocon frontgroup. (3.00 / 2)

Frank Lautenburg is also involved with this group.  http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographi es/biographies_show.htm?doc_id=155223

So are a bunch of other Dems, some of them quite liberal.

Who is "RightWeb" and why are they a credible resource?  They look to me like one of those extreme-left radical groups that is made up of various post-Marxist intellectuals who are not liberal Democrats, and are way to the left of the mainstream of the Democratic Party.  Political Research Associates is another example, as are Z Magazine and others.

Why should we let them dictate the terms of debate?  The extreme left needs to be shut out just as much as the extreme right does.  These people want to reframe the terms of debate by creating an atmosphere where anyone to the right of their extreme left academic-post-Marxism is considerd right wing.  Get this:  They list the League for Industrial Democracy, a democratic socialist labor oriented group, as "neocon" because of their strong anti-Communist stance during the Cold War.  Also listed on their website as a neocon right wing group is Social Democrats USA, who are condemned for the same reason (hawkish anti-Communism), and, get this, supporting Henry Jackson (D-WA) who was a staunch pro-labor Democrat.

Schumer's involvement with this group is a "so what".  I'd be more interested in a discussion on why people are consulting RightWeb as a resource, because they aren't liberal democrats and they even think democratic socialists are too far right.  That says a lot about who is behind this website.


by ACSR on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 10:57:02 AM EST

Re: Schumer is in a Neocon frontgroup. (none / 0)

It is not a so what.  He actually supports the war, which is a minority position at this point, and an extreme minority in the democratic party.  There is no reason to allow this minority view to decide who gets to run and who doesn't.


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by Dameocrat on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 12:59:08 PM EST
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I have my issues with Schumer.  This isn't one of them.


by ACSR on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 09:03:28 PM EST
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Schumer is another foot soldier of AIPAC.  Would you expect nothing less?

Why does no one here rail agaist AIPAC?  It is basically the headquarters for a foreign influence on our own policy.  


by dayspring on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 12:50:55 PM EST

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oh that really is troubling.

My friend Rob, sent me this link to theocons over here who send lotsa cash over to Israel to foment world war 3 starting between Israel and Arab states, bringing about the Rapture and the end of time....

AIPAC sounds like a group that would support these freaks.


by daninvirginia on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 01:16:06 PM EST
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He has supported their positions, but cannot be shown to a be a member.


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by Dameocrat on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 01:06:45 PM EST


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